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	<description>Cornelius Puschmann on corporate and institutional blogging, linguistics, open access and other things that interest him.</description>
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		<title>By: No social media for workaholics? - CorpBlawg</title>
		<link>http://corpblawg.ynada.com/2006/12/11/whats-a-blog-ask-7-companies-get-7-opinions#comment-22312</link>
		<dc:creator>No social media for workaholics? - CorpBlawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogging is - I won&#8217;t do that because there is no one single answer (but have a look here if you&#8217;re curious). You can interpret blogging to be anything that&#8217;s published via [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cornelius</title>
		<link>http://corpblawg.ynada.com/2006/12/11/whats-a-blog-ask-7-companies-get-7-opinions#comment-8669</link>
		<dc:creator>Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, I don't think it is unfair to relate Open for Discussion to McDonald's corporate image, in terms of the impact that it can potentially have.

That does not mean that the issues discussed there are not vital ones, nor that the dialog between your company and the public is not indeed an open discussion - because to me it looks very frank, direct and lively.

However, I don't think "image" has to be a dirty word. It describes how others perceive you, and sometimes this perception differs significantly from how you perceive yourself. With McDonald's, the public perception may well be much more negative than is warranted by the facts, the company partly acting as a stand-in for an entire industry and as a scapegoat for larger social issues. Having an open discussion means expressing your views and listening to the views of others, and OFD as a forum makes such an exchange possible.

In other words: I absolutely do not discount that it is your objective "to have a dialog on the real issues businesses and society face together". I just think that the way in which the dialog takes place allows McDonald's to demonstrate its communicative and interactional competence. And that is likely to have a positive effect on how people see you. I don't feel that there is anything wrong with that.

The situation in a blog is much, much more symmetrical than it is in other situations where corporations and the public interact, meaning all discussants are equally heard (ideally). The result is a corporate image shaped not by "the message", but by the participants' evaluation of how the corporate discussant acts (does he listen? does he see my point? does he respond to my criticism? etc).

I know this is a rather long-winded answer but I think the short version is: Open for Discussion works on multiple levels. One of those levels is the perception of the company as a social actor. Act well and people will note it positively. If image as a term isn't accurate to describe that process we simply need a new word.

I have lumped Open for Discussion together with other blogs which are vastly different - sadly it is the nature of classifications that they are never specific enough. But my semantics of "image-related" simply don't equate that with something bad. I just think Open for Discussion can potentially change how people see McDonald's, and that you're quite aware of that, other objectives notwithstanding.

Thank you for stopping by, Bob, and for your well-placed criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, I don&#8217;t think it is unfair to relate Open for Discussion to McDonald&#8217;s corporate image, in terms of the impact that it can potentially have.</p>
<p>That does not mean that the issues discussed there are not vital ones, nor that the dialog between your company and the public is not indeed an open discussion - because to me it looks very frank, direct and lively.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think &#8220;image&#8221; has to be a dirty word. It describes how others perceive you, and sometimes this perception differs significantly from how you perceive yourself. With McDonald&#8217;s, the public perception may well be much more negative than is warranted by the facts, the company partly acting as a stand-in for an entire industry and as a scapegoat for larger social issues. Having an open discussion means expressing your views and listening to the views of others, and OFD as a forum makes such an exchange possible.</p>
<p>In other words: I absolutely do not discount that it is your objective &#8220;to have a dialog on the real issues businesses and society face together&#8221;. I just think that the way in which the dialog takes place allows McDonald&#8217;s to demonstrate its communicative and interactional competence. And that is likely to have a positive effect on how people see you. I don&#8217;t feel that there is anything wrong with that.</p>
<p>The situation in a blog is much, much more symmetrical than it is in other situations where corporations and the public interact, meaning all discussants are equally heard (ideally). The result is a corporate image shaped not by &#8220;the message&#8221;, but by the participants&#8217; evaluation of how the corporate discussant acts (does he listen? does he see my point? does he respond to my criticism? etc).</p>
<p>I know this is a rather long-winded answer but I think the short version is: Open for Discussion works on multiple levels. One of those levels is the perception of the company as a social actor. Act well and people will note it positively. If image as a term isn&#8217;t accurate to describe that process we simply need a new word.</p>
<p>I have lumped Open for Discussion together with other blogs which are vastly different - sadly it is the nature of classifications that they are never specific enough. But my semantics of &#8220;image-related&#8221; simply don&#8217;t equate that with something bad. I just think Open for Discussion can potentially change how people see McDonald&#8217;s, and that you&#8217;re quite aware of that, other objectives notwithstanding.</p>
<p>Thank you for stopping by, Bob, and for your well-placed criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Langert</title>
		<link>http://corpblawg.ynada.com/2006/12/11/whats-a-blog-ask-7-companies-get-7-opinions#comment-8637</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Langert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cornelius,  Thanks for referencing my blog at McDonald's.  We are addressing key societal issues that our business in some way impacts, or can make an impact.  We have covered antibiotic usage, animal welfare standards, our food and nutrition, and many other important substantive issues.  With all this, we are indeed having an open discussion, as you can see by posting comments, good and bad, and responding to many of them.  So my questions is this:  why do you view this as "clearly image related?"  I think this discounts the objectives of the blog which is to have a dialogue on the real issues businesses and society face together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornelius,  Thanks for referencing my blog at McDonald&#8217;s.  We are addressing key societal issues that our business in some way impacts, or can make an impact.  We have covered antibiotic usage, animal welfare standards, our food and nutrition, and many other important substantive issues.  With all this, we are indeed having an open discussion, as you can see by posting comments, good and bad, and responding to many of them.  So my questions is this:  why do you view this as &#8220;clearly image related?&#8221;  I think this discounts the objectives of the blog which is to have a dialogue on the real issues businesses and society face together.</p>
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		<title>By: EXCELER8ion - Online recruitment marketing, social media optimization, and interactive advertising</title>
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		<dc:creator>EXCELER8ion - Online recruitment marketing, social media optimization, and interactive advertising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cornelius Puschmann</title>
		<link>http://corpblawg.ynada.com/2006/12/11/whats-a-blog-ask-7-companies-get-7-opinions#comment-8204</link>
		<dc:creator>Cornelius Puschmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Ed Terpening</title>
		<link>http://corpblawg.ynada.com/2006/12/11/whats-a-blog-ask-7-companies-get-7-opinions#comment-8119</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Terpening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other blog, "CEO", is available to the public.  We just don't generally publicize it because it's focused on a narrow community of B2B users.  Feel free to check it out and write about it: http://blog.wellsfargo.com/ceo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other blog, &#8220;CEO&#8221;, is available to the public.  We just don&#8217;t generally publicize it because it&#8217;s focused on a narrow community of B2B users.  Feel free to check it out and write about it: <a href="http://blog.wellsfargo.com/ceo" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wellsfargo.com/ceo</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cornelius</title>
		<link>http://corpblawg.ynada.com/2006/12/11/whats-a-blog-ask-7-companies-get-7-opinions#comment-8100</link>
		<dc:creator>Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by, Ed. I admit that the way I phrased doesn't quite do GBH justice - from what I have read, it is an informative resource for those interested in disaster preparedness.

There is, however, a clear link between what Wells Fargo does (insurance, loans) and both GBH and The Student LoanDown. I can't see anything remotely surprising (nor in any way shady) about a provider of financial services blogging about, well, topics related - if tangentially - to financial services. I think you're providing a valuable service to your customers and GBH and SLD are both well-written and quite interesting (and I say that being neither in need of a loan nor terribly interested in disasters).

Also, thanks for pointing me to your blog index. I was aware of GBH and SLD, but not of Stagecoach Island. I assume the CEO/B2B blogs you mention are internal, not public. I would be very interested in including internal blogs in my PhD study of corporate blogs, as they may differ considerably in terms of style and structure from public-facing ones, so if there is any chance of a collaboration please email me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by, Ed. I admit that the way I phrased doesn&#8217;t quite do GBH justice - from what I have read, it is an informative resource for those interested in disaster preparedness.</p>
<p>There is, however, a clear link between what Wells Fargo does (insurance, loans) and both GBH and The Student LoanDown. I can&#8217;t see anything remotely surprising (nor in any way shady) about a provider of financial services blogging about, well, topics related - if tangentially - to financial services. I think you&#8217;re providing a valuable service to your customers and GBH and SLD are both well-written and quite interesting (and I say that being neither in need of a loan nor terribly interested in disasters).</p>
<p>Also, thanks for pointing me to your blog index. I was aware of GBH and SLD, but not of Stagecoach Island. I assume the CEO/B2B blogs you mention are internal, not public. I would be very interested in including internal blogs in my PhD study of corporate blogs, as they may differ considerably in terms of style and structure from public-facing ones, so if there is any chance of a collaboration please email me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Terpening</title>
		<link>http://corpblawg.ynada.com/2006/12/11/whats-a-blog-ask-7-companies-get-7-opinions#comment-8086</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Terpening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cornelius: thanks for taking the time to review our first blog, Guided by History.  Did you know we have 4 blogs now?  Most are on our blog index (see URL I entered), and we have a B2B blog as well /ceo. 

It still surprises me when I read some opinions that GBH is meant to sell insurance--that never came up when we developed it. We see it as a community service, and in fact it comes out of our Historical Services dept (museums, etc). I understand the skepticism that accompanies corporations entering this space.  We see it as a new way of communicating, and getting customers to learn from eachother through the conversations that hope to develop.  We're not there yet with all of our blogs, but we'll stick with it until we get it right :-)

Cheers,
Ed Terpening
VP, Social Media
Wells Fargo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cornelius: thanks for taking the time to review our first blog, Guided by History.  Did you know we have 4 blogs now?  Most are on our blog index (see URL I entered), and we have a B2B blog as well /ceo. </p>
<p>It still surprises me when I read some opinions that GBH is meant to sell insurance&#8211;that never came up when we developed it. We see it as a community service, and in fact it comes out of our Historical Services dept (museums, etc). I understand the skepticism that accompanies corporations entering this space.  We see it as a new way of communicating, and getting customers to learn from eachother through the conversations that hope to develop.  We&#8217;re not there yet with all of our blogs, but we&#8217;ll stick with it until we get it right <img src='http://corpblawg.ynada.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Ed Terpening<br />
VP, Social Media<br />
Wells Fargo</p>
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